Lorena: The Logical fallacy is a strategy to manipulate people to think or do what you want. People are not aware of it but we use it on our daily bases. Students can use it in their essays, with parents, teacher and much more, plus likewise. For example, how many times your mother doesn't let you do something and her only argument is "because I say so" and you believe it. You get mad but you still respect it and go to your room and do nothing about it. A lot of people are not aware they are even using the logical fallacies. Another example is when you blame something that happens on something else. For example, if you fail the test and you say to the teacher that is not your fault but your dog got sick and had a huge fight with your parents but the things do not connect.
During class we got to watch a video about logical fallacies, how to identify them, and their definitions. Logical fallacies may be unacceptable, and are not essential to use in arguments. They are errors in reasoning. In our daily life we use logical fallacies very frequent, but its not correct to use them. For example, whenever I am going to a party my mom always asks: Who is going to the party? and I answer, all of my friends are going. This is an example of a false cause logical fallacy. I am generalizing who is going, and of course not everyone is going to the party. In the other hand, I ask my mom if I can go to the beach to run in my free time and she tells me not to go because I am a girl. My mom is generalizing the fact that as I am a girl maybe bad people may kidnap me or make me some harm. This is a type of odhominem fallacy. Last but not least, I have a perfect example of a composition and division logical fallacy. As you know, there are a variety of schools here in Tampico, and we now attend to ATS. People from other schools have the perspective of ATS students being “fresas, jurados, or think they are superior” than the rest of the students from other schools. This perspective others have about us is not true, they are also generalizing ATS student’s attitudes.
In class today we watch a video of Donald Trump talking for 3 minutes. In those 3 minutes there were more than 10 Logical Fallacies identified. It explain us what each flaw in reasoning meant and how Donald Trump used them to convince his audience. Logical Fallacies are used everyday at conversations or at school works. It is a a wrong thing to do, even though it works. In partners we identify different logical fallacies and examples of each one. One that we recognize that happens really often is the fallacy of false cause. For example when you ask your mother for a favor and she responds with " How do you want me to let you go out alone if you don´t even know how to take care of your dog". Taking care of my dog has no relationship in going out to a party but it work to avoid giving me permission. Another example we identify is the bandwagon fallacy when we use the phrase "everybody failed the quiz" or "everybody will go to that party". Last example we gave was the composition/division fallacy. This happens often with how people from other schools say "Students from ATS are "fresas". They assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all.
Today we learned about logical fallacies in class. I liked the video that explained some of the many logical fallacies that Donald Trump used during one of the speeches he gave during his presidential campaign. I realized that I use many of the logical fallacies discussed during the explanation. For example, I like to use false cause in my arguments. I compare two different events to show that some event is positive or negative. I did not know that what I was doing was false cause fallacy. I also realized that friends and family use fallacy to "win" an argument. My friends like to use anecdotal, using personal anecdotes in order to create an argument. My parents also use anecdotal, as well as black and white. The video and the website about fallacies made me recognize all the different types of fallacies that people that I know use in order to convince me and create an argument. It may not be wrong, but it is a screwed way of creating claims.
Today I learned that logical fallacy are deceiving methods in which the author provides no support or sense whatsoever to an argument, but makes the audience believe it. There are many types of logical fallacies that can be used. To learn about them we watched a video that used Donald Trump's speech as he announced that he was running for president, as an example of logical fallacy. The video only focuses on the first 3 minutes of the speech out of the 45, in that short period of time Trump used at least 10 different logical fallacies. One that I remember him using is the black and white fallacy. He is saying that the US don't have victories anymore, he is assuming that only 2 outcomes can result either you win or you don't. On a day to day basis I can see multiple logical fallacies that both my parents and I use. One that I use a lot is the bandwagon fallacy. When I ask for permission to go to a party and they tell me I can't go, my argument is always “But everyone is going!”. This is false, because not everyone is going. One that my parents use a lot is false cause fallacy. When there is no relationship between two events but somehow one causes the other. For example my mom would say: “You can't even finish your homework so you will not be able to take care of the dog.” The two events have no relation at all. Overall, I learned how to identify and avoid using logical fallacies.
Today in classed we analyze Donald Trump's inaugural speech when he announced that he was running for president. Trump attempted to gain the audience attention by using logical fallacies. Bu using this logical fallacies he was able to convert inconsistent and not-logical arguments to have a certain "punch" the gains the audience attraction. Although they have this attraction of the audience attention, it is better to use well formulated arguments to ensure you're able to convince the audience about something. For example, in my daily life I sometimes use this logical fallacies that often make my arguments unvalidated. On my daily life, my family members also use this logical fallacies, when my mom says to me that I shouldn't go to Byblos because she has experienced bad things in there, she is using the anecdotal logical fallacy which uses personal experiences to validate its argument. As you can see, this argument is not valid because it doesn't mean that every time I go to Byblos I will encounter dangerous situations, the argument is not logical.
Julian Gonzalez: In today's class we watched a video that had to do with a new, inconsistent way of formulating arguments. These were explained in the short film, and they are called logical fallacies. A logical fallacy is basically a flaw or an error in the reasoning of someone, and they shouldn't be used in claims since they don't provide a sound or provable argument. The video showed one of Donald Trump's presidential campaign speeches, and analysed it to find logical fallacies. Almost everything he said was identified as one, he used them to fool the people, and to make them think he states the truth. One of the first fallacies he used is called the bandwagon, which appeals to popularity to seek validation. When starting his speech Trump says, "Woah, that is some group of people, thousands." He mentions the word thousands, even if there weren't thousands of people, to make them think that he is a viable option for president since a lot of people went to see him. Logical fallacies can be used by everyone, and they are common in everyday speech. An example is the false cause fallacy, which establishes a relationship between two completely unrelated things, such as not being able to stop ISIS because you don't know how to handle the air conditioner. I learned how to identify all of these fallacies, how to point them out in someone else's argument, and why not to use them.
Today in AP Seminar class, we watched a 22 minute long video explaining the different logical fallacies and how are they applied. The logical fallacies are all of those illogical reasonings that make up a bad argument. Logical fallacies could be used and appear to be a good argument, however, it is never okay to use a logical fallacy. This makes your argument to be weak. An example of a logical fallacy could be the bandwagon appeal. Bandwagon is used when a person wants to appeal to popularity, or say that that many people do something to attempt for validation. I always use the bandwagon approach. For example; last week I failed a math exam because I didn’t understood the topic. My mom got really mad and asked my why I failed the test. I told her that everyone in the class failed the exam because it was very difficult and the teacher didn't explain well. Of course, this is not a good argument, neither it is true. Only a few people failed the exam, but I used this approach for my mom to not be mad. This is an illogical reasoning and an example of a logical fallacy.
Lidia Sarmiento: During today's class, we watched a video that analysed a speech made by Donald Trump. In the first three minutes, numerous amounts of logical fallacies were found. What are logical fallacies? Logical fallacies are methods that are used to distract the fact that the argument is not being backed up in a credible or valid way. We use logical fallacies every single day, and they can be used either consciously or unconsciously. I found that I use most of these in both regular conversations and in my previous work or research for school. There are some that I already knew, like the bandwagon approach or the false cause. This is because I see them very often. For example, when you are saying you should be allowed to go out because everyone is going you are using the bandwagon effect. The false cause would be taking two things that have nothing to do with each other, and connect them in a way that looks like a cause and effect relationship. An example of this could be "How am I supposed to let you stay home alone when you can't even complete your homework on time." These two scenarios have nothing to do with each other, yet they are used together to "prove a point". This is not an effective way to support your arguments. After today, I am now able to identify logical fallacies in an argument.
Alejandro Morales: Today in class we watched a video that was of a speech of Donald Trump. During the video there was a voice that detected the using of logical fallacies by the president. Logical fallacies are ways to gain the audience attention and make them forget about an argument you said that it isn't backed up with supportive information. One of the logical fallacies I learned about while hearing the speech was the "Anecdotal". This fallacy was used by Trump when he doesn't have supportive information and uses a personal experience. I think this is used a lot in my life, I think that sometimes I recommend or criticize a place because of ONE personal experience, and I don't know further information about that place. I also heard Trump say "When do we beat Mexico at the border". This refers to illegal immigration which is a very big topic that requieres a lot of information, but trump says this quote to make it easier to address the problem. This is called the "Straw man" fallacy. Then Trump says "The US is a dumping ground for everybody else's problems". Trump doesn't have the information to support the statement. This is called the "slippery slope fallacy" and it means that if you let something happen, then a series of events will happen too. For example if a teacher lets a friend play in the class without a reason, she will need to let the rest of the students as well, so if one thing happens, a set of things will happen after. I have learned different fallacies now and yesterday I never had heard of that word. I look forward to learn more fallacies, and avoid the use of them.
Lorena: The Logical fallacy is a strategy to manipulate people to think or do what you want. People are not aware of it but we use it on our daily bases. Students can use it in their essays, with parents, teacher and much more, plus likewise. For example, how many times your mother doesn't let you do something and her only argument is "because I say so" and you believe it. You get mad but you still respect it and go to your room and do nothing about it. A lot of people are not aware they are even using the logical fallacies. Another example is when you blame something that happens on something else. For example, if you fail the test and you say to the teacher that is not your fault but your dog got sick and had a huge fight with your parents but the things do not connect.
ReplyDeleteDuring class we got to watch a video about logical fallacies, how to identify them, and their definitions. Logical fallacies may be unacceptable, and are not essential to use in arguments. They are errors in reasoning. In our daily life we use logical fallacies very frequent, but its not correct to use them. For example, whenever I am going to a party my mom always asks: Who is going to the party? and I answer, all of my friends are going. This is an example of a false cause logical fallacy. I am generalizing who is going, and of course not everyone is going to the party. In the other hand, I ask my mom if I can go to the beach to run in my free time and she tells me not to go because I am a girl. My mom is generalizing the fact that as I am a girl maybe bad people may kidnap me or make me some harm. This is a type of odhominem fallacy. Last but not least, I have a perfect example of a composition and division logical fallacy. As you know, there are a variety of schools here in Tampico, and we now attend to ATS. People from other schools have the perspective of ATS students being “fresas, jurados, or think they are superior” than the rest of the students from other schools. This perspective others have about us is not true, they are also generalizing ATS student’s attitudes.
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ReplyDeleteIn class today we watch a video of Donald Trump talking for 3 minutes. In those 3 minutes there were more than 10 Logical Fallacies identified. It explain us what each flaw in reasoning meant and how Donald Trump used them to convince his audience. Logical Fallacies are used everyday at conversations or at school works. It is a a wrong thing to do, even though it works. In partners we identify different logical fallacies and examples of each one. One that we recognize that happens really often is the fallacy of false cause. For example when you ask your mother for a favor and she responds with " How do you want me to let you go out alone if you don´t even know how to take care of your dog". Taking care of my dog has no relationship in going out to a party but it work to avoid giving me permission. Another example we identify is the bandwagon fallacy when we use the phrase "everybody failed the quiz" or "everybody will go to that party". Last example we gave was the composition/division fallacy. This happens often with how people from other schools say "Students from ATS are "fresas". They assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all.
Today we learned about logical fallacies in class. I liked the video that explained some of the many logical fallacies that Donald Trump used during one of the speeches he gave during his presidential campaign. I realized that I use many of the logical fallacies discussed during the explanation. For example, I like to use false cause in my arguments. I compare two different events to show that some event is positive or negative. I did not know that what I was doing was false cause fallacy. I also realized that friends and family use fallacy to "win" an argument. My friends like to use anecdotal, using personal anecdotes in order to create an argument. My parents also use anecdotal, as well as black and white. The video and the website about fallacies made me recognize all the different types of fallacies that people that I know use in order to convince me and create an argument. It may not be wrong, but it is a screwed way of creating claims.
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DeleteValeria Morales:
ReplyDeleteToday I learned that logical fallacy are deceiving methods in which the author provides no support or sense whatsoever to an argument, but makes the audience believe it. There are many types of logical fallacies that can be used. To learn about them we watched a video that used Donald Trump's speech as he announced that he was running for president, as an example of logical fallacy. The video only focuses on the first 3 minutes of the speech out of the 45, in that short period of time Trump used at least 10 different logical fallacies. One that I remember him using is the black and white fallacy. He is saying that the US don't have victories anymore, he is assuming that only 2 outcomes can result either you win or you don't. On a day to day basis I can see multiple logical fallacies that both my parents and I use. One that I use a lot is the bandwagon fallacy. When I ask for permission to go to a party and they tell me I can't go, my argument is always “But everyone is going!”. This is false, because not everyone is going. One that my parents use a lot is false cause fallacy. When there is no relationship between two events but somehow one causes the other. For example my mom would say: “You can't even finish your homework so you will not be able to take care of the dog.” The two events have no relation at all. Overall, I learned how to identify and avoid using logical fallacies.
Today in classed we analyze Donald Trump's inaugural speech when he announced that he was running for president. Trump attempted to gain the audience attention by using logical fallacies. Bu using this logical fallacies he was able to convert inconsistent and not-logical arguments to have a certain "punch" the gains the audience attraction. Although they have this attraction of the audience attention, it is better to use well formulated arguments to ensure you're able to convince the audience about something. For example, in my daily life I sometimes use this logical fallacies that often make my arguments unvalidated. On my daily life, my family members also use this logical fallacies, when my mom says to me that I shouldn't go to Byblos because she has experienced bad things in there, she is using the anecdotal logical fallacy which uses personal experiences to validate its argument. As you can see, this argument is not valid because it doesn't mean that every time I go to Byblos I will encounter dangerous situations, the argument is not logical.
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ReplyDeleteJulian Gonzalez:
ReplyDeleteIn today's class we watched a video that had to do with a new, inconsistent way of formulating arguments. These were explained in the short film, and they are called logical fallacies. A logical fallacy is basically a flaw or an error in the reasoning of someone, and they shouldn't be used in claims since they don't provide a sound or provable argument. The video showed one of Donald Trump's presidential campaign speeches, and analysed it to find logical fallacies. Almost everything he said was identified as one, he used them to fool the people, and to make them think he states the truth. One of the first fallacies he used is called the bandwagon, which appeals to popularity to seek validation. When starting his speech Trump says, "Woah, that is some group of people, thousands." He mentions the word thousands, even if there weren't thousands of people, to make them think that he is a viable option for president since a lot of people went to see him. Logical fallacies can be used by everyone, and they are common in everyday speech. An example is the false cause fallacy, which establishes a relationship between two completely unrelated things, such as not being able to stop ISIS because you don't know how to handle the air conditioner. I learned how to identify all of these fallacies, how to point them out in someone else's argument, and why not to use them.
Today in AP Seminar class, we watched a 22 minute long video explaining the different logical fallacies and how are they applied. The logical fallacies are all of those illogical reasonings that make up a bad argument. Logical fallacies could be used and appear to be a good argument, however, it is never okay to use a logical fallacy. This makes your argument to be weak. An example of a logical fallacy could be the bandwagon appeal. Bandwagon is used when a person wants to appeal to popularity, or say that that many people do something to attempt for validation. I always use the bandwagon approach. For example; last week I failed a math exam because I didn’t understood the topic. My mom got really mad and asked my why I failed the test. I told her that everyone in the class failed the exam because it was very difficult and the teacher didn't explain well. Of course, this is not a good argument, neither it is true. Only a few people failed the exam, but I used this approach for my mom to not be mad. This is an illogical reasoning and an example of a logical fallacy.
ReplyDeleteLidia Sarmiento: During today's class, we watched a video that analysed a speech made by Donald Trump. In the first three minutes, numerous amounts of logical fallacies were found. What are logical fallacies? Logical fallacies are methods that are used to distract the fact that the argument is not being backed up in a credible or valid way. We use logical fallacies every single day, and they can be used either consciously or unconsciously. I found that I use most of these in both regular conversations and in my previous work or research for school. There are some that I already knew, like the bandwagon approach or the false cause. This is because I see them very often. For example, when you are saying you should be allowed to go out because everyone is going you are using the bandwagon effect. The false cause would be taking two things that have nothing to do with each other, and connect them in a way that looks like a cause and effect relationship. An example of this could be "How am I supposed to let you stay home alone when you can't even complete your homework on time." These two scenarios have nothing to do with each other, yet they are used together to "prove a point". This is not an effective way to support your arguments. After today, I am now able to identify logical fallacies in an argument.
ReplyDeleteAlejandro Morales:
ReplyDeleteToday in class we watched a video that was of a speech of Donald Trump. During the video there was a voice that detected the using of logical fallacies by the president. Logical fallacies are ways to gain the audience attention and make them forget about an argument you said that it isn't backed up with supportive information. One of the logical fallacies I learned about while hearing the speech was the "Anecdotal". This fallacy was used by Trump when he doesn't have supportive information and uses a personal experience. I think this is used a lot in my life, I think that sometimes I recommend or criticize a place because of ONE personal experience, and I don't know further information about that place. I also heard Trump say "When do we beat Mexico at the border". This refers to illegal immigration which is a very big topic that requieres a lot of information, but trump says this quote to make it easier to address the problem. This is called the "Straw man" fallacy. Then Trump says "The US is a dumping ground for everybody else's problems". Trump doesn't have the information to support the statement. This is called the "slippery slope fallacy" and it means that if you let something happen, then a series of events will happen too. For example if a teacher lets a friend play in the class without a reason, she will need to let the rest of the students as well, so if one thing happens, a set of things will happen after. I have learned different fallacies now and yesterday I never had heard of that word. I look forward to learn more fallacies, and avoid the use of them.